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mrclean
nevermind.
AceTwo
The 'small-big-big or small-big-big-big-small' suggests Ace Tracking (or Ten Tracking)
If it was Otherwise (ie counting related or clump of big cards coming)there is no reason to have the small bet. All of the bets would be big.
Check how often the first card on the Big bet is Ace (and Ten). If it is significantly more often than normal then that's it.
Now how on earth you Ace track a CSM, I have no idea.
If it was Otherwise (ie counting related or clump of big cards coming)there is no reason to have the small bet. All of the bets would be big.
Check how often the first card on the Big bet is Ace (and Ten). If it is significantly more often than normal then that's it.
Now how on earth you Ace track a CSM, I have no idea.
cucux
So in this casino I saw a group of advantage players playing against 6 deck CSM.
Could you be more precise about the model of the CSM?
heavenstorm
Hey Supergrass & guys, new member here.
I had seen this group of guys in my local casino as well and just like the OP said 3 of them will occupied the whole table.
Initially I was just play alone BS with CSM at 4th box and they came. First box will only bet minimum every round. Second box will bet 3 units sometimes. Third box is the big bettor which will max out the bet once in a blue moon.
The first box guy seems to be tracking something because there was once he pointed to the last box, and the big bettor places max bet on my left which at that point I was just thinking to myself 'wth are they superstitious or what'. But it came a blackjack for them. I know this probably is just luck but it was just kinda amazing. That was the only time I saw them placing bet beside me. The rest of the time the big bettor will just bet on his box, so I don't know if they are trying to fool the pit manager that they are superstitious. The first box guy is the one that seem to be tracking something and the one who signal big bettor to place bet.
Like OP mentioned, when they play, all the managers will come and they are really some VIP. The junket/ambassadors keep standing next to them and entertaining them. I also saw some weird chips they are using which I assume are NN chips/Dead chips.
OP mentioned they are not friendly and it is true. The first box guy will keep finding trouble with the dealer. I don't know if it is an act or he is really just as Axxhole. The dealer was kinda old lady and he got a hand which I can't remember but its like ( 2 , 5 ) and he took out chips and say he wanna split, the dealer looked confused as well as me because he definitely know BS inside out and that hand is not even possible to be spitted. The dealer stared at him and he scold her for staring / being rude and complain to manager and got the dealer changed.
They could take up to 15min to play a hand and in the end I just changed table because I am just a small fish there, all the managers only seem to care about them and don't even care that I was waiting to play next hand.
Edit: forgot to mention they play almost everyday and its like work to them. They seem to start at 9/10am and finish their session at 5/6pm. They play the same table throughout the day.
There was one more incident which was I can't remember max bet was how much but I think was about $5000 per box, and suddenly the guys make a big fuss because they somehow they place bet more then $5k and the casino refused to pay them when they won. The casino insist max bet should only be $5k. They argues that when they lose the casino eat the full amount and now they win casino say max bet is $5k. The first box guy ask to speak to highest rank manager and cause a big stir at the floor. Technically I believe its the dealer's fault for not checking the bet prior to dealing. Maybe this is one of their strategy which I don't know how it works.
I had seen this group of guys in my local casino as well and just like the OP said 3 of them will occupied the whole table.
Initially I was just play alone BS with CSM at 4th box and they came. First box will only bet minimum every round. Second box will bet 3 units sometimes. Third box is the big bettor which will max out the bet once in a blue moon.
The first box guy seems to be tracking something because there was once he pointed to the last box, and the big bettor places max bet on my left which at that point I was just thinking to myself 'wth are they superstitious or what'. But it came a blackjack for them. I know this probably is just luck but it was just kinda amazing. That was the only time I saw them placing bet beside me. The rest of the time the big bettor will just bet on his box, so I don't know if they are trying to fool the pit manager that they are superstitious. The first box guy is the one that seem to be tracking something and the one who signal big bettor to place bet.
Like OP mentioned, when they play, all the managers will come and they are really some VIP. The junket/ambassadors keep standing next to them and entertaining them. I also saw some weird chips they are using which I assume are NN chips/Dead chips.
OP mentioned they are not friendly and it is true. The first box guy will keep finding trouble with the dealer. I don't know if it is an act or he is really just as Axxhole. The dealer was kinda old lady and he got a hand which I can't remember but its like ( 2 , 5 ) and he took out chips and say he wanna split, the dealer looked confused as well as me because he definitely know BS inside out and that hand is not even possible to be spitted. The dealer stared at him and he scold her for staring / being rude and complain to manager and got the dealer changed.
They could take up to 15min to play a hand and in the end I just changed table because I am just a small fish there, all the managers only seem to care about them and don't even care that I was waiting to play next hand.
Edit: forgot to mention they play almost everyday and its like work to them. They seem to start at 9/10am and finish their session at 5/6pm. They play the same table throughout the day.
There was one more incident which was I can't remember max bet was how much but I think was about $5000 per box, and suddenly the guys make a big fuss because they somehow they place bet more then $5k and the casino refused to pay them when they won. The casino insist max bet should only be $5k. They argues that when they lose the casino eat the full amount and now they win casino say max bet is $5k. The first box guy ask to speak to highest rank manager and cause a big stir at the floor. Technically I believe its the dealer's fault for not checking the bet prior to dealing. Maybe this is one of their strategy which I don't know how it works.
surrender88s
This is all kinds of fishy.'Rule No.1: Never lose money. Rule No.2: Never forget rule No.1.' -Warren Buffett on risk/return
heavenstorm
If it helps, the house edge is about 0.16%
S17
ES
DOA
DAS
Split Max 4 times
Ace Max split 2 times
CSM is One2Six
S17
ES
DOA
DAS
Split Max 4 times
Ace Max split 2 times
CSM is One2Six
teliot
I had seen this group of guys in my local casino as well and just like the OP said 3 of them will occupied the whole table, etc.
Are the big bettors betting behind? In other words, the guy at first base and his other teammate play 3 to 5 spots, and when the big bettor comes in, he bets behind one of the other bettors, so that it is not his hand to decide strategically?heavenstorm
Are the big bettors betting behind? In other words, the guy at first base and his other teammate play 3 to 5 spots, and when the big bettor comes in, he bets behind one of the other bettors, so that it is not his hand to decide strategically?
yes when the big bettor bets, all 3 bet one box. The first guy with 1 unit in front, 2nd guy 3 unit behind and the big bettor max bet at the back.
I did not get the chance to see if splitting opportunity comes, whether the big bettor split as well or only stay in the first hand.
Romes
Are the big bettors betting behind? In other words, the guy at first base and his other teammate play 3 to 5 spots, and when the big bettor comes in, he bets behind one of the other bettors, so that it is not his hand to decide strategically?
teliot, I'm pretty sure I know exactly what they're doing, as I would imagine you do too. However something is very fishy with the thread and how a new account suddenly claims to be seeing the same group and rehashing the same questions. It smells like casino staff and for the sake of the play alone please don't reveal it.
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charliepatrick
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Did you mean Early Surrender?
There is one casino in the UK ( http://www.thecasinonottingham.co.uk/blackjack/ ) which offers Late Surrender and logically peeks, with a stated house edge of 0.26%. fwiw the standard UK allows unlimited Re-Split incl Aces but no surrender (about .48% HE). Early Surrender would send the game into player's advantage (wizard http://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/rule-variations/ says it's worth +.56% more).
There might be a team method whereby you place (for argument's sake) £5 on the front of your box and (say) £5 on the back of someone else's box. They do the same. This means you might split certain pairs (e.g. 7s vs 9) to help the back bet (which only has to pick one of the 7s). I'm guessing if you could put £25 then it might overcome a 0.16% HE.
As to clumping, my local casino uses the One2Six and sometimes it doesn't seem totally random - using the slot mechanism means that adjacent cards have nearly 1/#Slots of being next to each other again (i.e. your card goes into the same slot) and they may be using that info.
There is one casino in the UK ( http://www.thecasinonottingham.co.uk/blackjack/ ) which offers Late Surrender and logically peeks, with a stated house edge of 0.26%. fwiw the standard UK allows unlimited Re-Split incl Aces but no surrender (about .48% HE). Early Surrender would send the game into player's advantage (wizard http://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/rule-variations/ says it's worth +.56% more).
There might be a team method whereby you place (for argument's sake) £5 on the front of your box and (say) £5 on the back of someone else's box. They do the same. This means you might split certain pairs (e.g. 7s vs 9) to help the back bet (which only has to pick one of the 7s). I'm guessing if you could put £25 then it might overcome a 0.16% HE.
As to clumping, my local casino uses the One2Six and sometimes it doesn't seem totally random - using the slot mechanism means that adjacent cards have nearly 1/#Slots of being next to each other again (i.e. your card goes into the same slot) and they may be using that info.